Women’s Rights

Posted by – June 10, 2010

I just want to take something I left in the comments and push it up here:

[L]et’s be clear that I am not in favor of forced contraception, for anyone, even though I’ll admit it sometimes strikes me as a fantastic idea. I think that’s how you “respect” a woman’s decision to have or not have a baby. It is, in the end, her decision, and I respect it in the same way I respect a woman’s decision to have or not have an abortion, in the same way I think that goddamn retarded Octomom DOES HAVE the right to have those eight babies, awful as it all may be. I will fight for women to have the rights to these choices. That doesn’t mean I agree with them.

I hate how, no matter what I say, the response from commenters is “I thought you were all about women’s rights,” like it’s some kneejerk argument everyone keeps in their back pocket. I am a supporter of women’s rights. I vehemently disagree with “women’s rights” as they’re practiced and preached today. So, yeah, I’m all about women’s rights. I just think what most people consider being all about “women’s rights” is stupid, parroting and unexamined.

“Women’s rights” is such a broad concept, and everyone interprets it how they want to, and most people interpret it in some way they heard it from someone else, who heard it from someone else, who read it on a website, which was just parroting something they read in a book published twenty years ago, and no one along that chain actually sat and thought deeply and creatively about what is and is not beneficial about championing certain aspects of a woman’s potential. And what was true then, in that context, is not necessarily true today, although we continue to form “feminist” arguments as though the supporting tautology had not long ago decomposed.

Things I am also not in favor of: Murdering babies, or murdering your baby specifically. Things I am in favor of: The right to choose an abortion, even late-term; and the right to ask a doctor to implant eight goddamn fertilized eggs in the uterus of a woman who doesn’t have any money or any foreseeable capability of making money or, really, any sustainable runs at sanity. Because if I’m going to support the right to choose, it’s got to work both ways.

And I don’t think people make the decision to have children maliciously, or with any sort of ill intent, I just think it’s a largely unexamined decision, or at least one examined from all the wrong angles. Why do we want to have our own children? Why, exactly? Why today, when we have so many other options and childbirth is no longer in any way necessary — but, rather, detrimental — to the survival of the species? Who, really, benefits from the birth of a child? Does the child? Does the parent? Does the world? If you say the child is a beneficiary, how do you know? How can you claim to know what is beneficial to a non-existent life form? Your child never got any say. Your bio-baby is now stuck here, in this mortal coil, for eight or ninety or more years, because of a decision you made on behalf of the child. It was the most important decision anyone will ever make in the history of his or her life: You decided to conceive and birth her. You decided to put her here and it’s a mostly irreversible decision. You never asked her permission. So how can we talk about a fetus’s right to life without taking about a fetus’s right to pregnancy termination? About a fetus’s right to have never been conceived in the first place? (Getting a little ridiculous here? Yeah. That’s because the fetus right-to-life argument is ridiculous.)

Why are we not having this conversation in larger forums? Why, when I raise the question of “Is it really a good idea to biologically reproduce?” am I shot down by blindly furious mothers who want to tell me, specifically, how horrible I am as a human? No one is saying we should kill your existing kids. No one is saying you weren’t making the best decision you knew how to make when you had them. No one is even saying you’re not a good mom. But why can’t we have this conversation objectively? Why does everyone involved have to focus all their fear and doubt into anger toward me.

This planet does not have the resources to support its existing humans — not even close. We know this; it’s not a secret. Why do we need to create more humans right now? There is no easier way to increase your carbon footprint sky-high than to birth another human. You can drive a hybrid for the rest of your life and it won’t even come close to cleaning up the harm you did to this planet by having a child.

If the planet’s trees were taking up too much of the planet’s C02 and producing too much oxygen, we would, like, stop planting trees. No-brainer. We’d all be like “Hey! Stop planting trees! We have enough! If you want a tree on your patio, just go get one at Home Depot! Don’t plant it yourself!” and that’s what would happen.

So, again — why can’t we just have this conversation? Why can’t we talk about how maybe, just maybe, we should be having fewer kids, or none at all. About the pros and cons. Like reasonable people.

It makes me insane to see couples spend tens of thousands of dollars and endure countless tearful, sleepless nights, relationship endings and hospital visits and ALL THE ENDLESS DRAMA just so they can have a shot at reproducing their own biological material. It’s so blindly egomaniacal. Like there aren’t enough fucking babies on this planet. Like what this planet REALLY needs is the VERY SPECIAL baby that you and your partner feel UNIQUELY CAPABLE of producing.

Listen: My dog is, hands-down, the coolest dog that ever lived on earth, and offers more value to the planet than any dog in the history of time. And he already existed when I decided I wanted him. He was born with about 50% of his awesomeness, and I loved him into the remaining 50%. I’m no less a mother to him because I didn’t birth him. He is no less my child. He will never be as good at math as I was, for sure, but he is a true joy and a life I can be proud I raised.

Why does everyone need their bio-babies so very, very badly? Why, other than pure, unadulterated ego? I know we don’t see it that way — it’s disguised under layers and layers of trickery, and we firmly believe that it is our absolute purpose in life to gestate and vaginally recover a human life. Again: No one does this maliciously. The ego is a cunning and quiet thing.

But what is so special about your biological material that it absolutely must be merged with your partner’s and reproduced to create one of a billion potential outcomes, most of which won’t be what you were expecting or hoping for anyway. But you’ll love that baby no matter what — even though it didn’t get your eye color, or your husband’s patient disposition, and instead has a funny chin that no one can quite account for and a total inability to get through the school day without winding up in the principal’s office. You will still love that child with every cell in your body. Why does that child have to share half your genetic material when you’re gonna love it no matter how that genetic material manifests? Why is it not better for the planet, and equally good for you, to adopt a baby that already exists? Why can’t we at least talk about it like adult humans, and not like Angry Mama Bears out in the woods; Mama Bears who keep the “women’s rights” argument in their pocket because, as long as you don’t pull too hard at it, it holds together about as well as toilet paper.

  • Lisa1976
    I think you are ignoring our biological drive to reproduce. Every species has the same drive. Why would humans be any different? We are compelled by biology to reproduce. Some of us more than others, obviously. I'd love for a evolutionary biologist to weigh in on your argument as I don't know all the scientific terms and reasons for our compulsion to reproduce; but I do know we are programmed to reproduce.

    I didn't take offense at your first post. Everyone has their own feelings, wants, and desires. But your argument reminded me of Angelina Jolie's pre biological children argument. In fact, it was word for word almost. She also said anyone who had biological children are selfish and she would never do it. Her first biological child was an accident (as so many are). The second two were not. What changed her mind? Biology. And, unless you've crossed that threshold (of actually having a biological child) you can never understand or relate.

    Our bodies are so much smarter than it seems you are willing to give credit. Shortly after giving birth our brains produce a chemical that erases our memories of the pain of labor. Isn't that amazing? Of course you never forget the experience but you look back and say, "it wasn't that bad," even if it really was. I know I had pain, but I couldn't tell you what it felt like. Our bodies do this to make us want to reproduce again. Of course, as in all things, some people will more effectively produce this chemical than others. Also, when we ovulate we send out chemicals (pheromones) to attract the opposite sex to fertilize our egg. Once again, not everyone sends these chemicals out at the same rate or effectiveness and not everyone receives (meaning the man) them at the same rate or effectiveness. I could go on and on about how our bodies were meant to reproduce. But, if you are really interested (which I was after I became pregnant on the pill) you can do some research. There is much out there. PBS produced an excellent documentary that I saw years ago. It was fascinating. They actually put little cameras and sensors in women's vaginas. I caught it like at 3:00 in the morning and I've never seen it since-- can't even remember the name (sorry, I know that's not helpful).

    Anywhoo, all of that to say-- you can't fight nature. Life will always find a way (it did for me despite my absolute best efforts). Biology isn't a force to be reckoned with. But, I also believe that some people truly were not meant to ever reproduce. I also believe this is biology. It is nature's way of terminating a bad gene pool. And, I'm not saying you have a bad gene pool.
  • Lilly
    I feel like this argument is saying it isn't okay to have your own kids, just go adopt. Are we really better off adopting? I mean I don't have the perfect life but, I am very happy that my parents had me.
  • Mccaulmiller
    I appreciate this article because, as a sorta newlywed, I'm tired of being asked, "when are you guys having kids?" or getting pegged with, "you aren't getting any younger."
    I'm 33, content to have no biological children, though most people seem to want me to doubt that ---it really upsets me.
    My husband and I are quite content to adopt a baby/older child if and when we decide we even want to walk that road.
    Thanks for this post though, I needed it just about now.
  • Willemijn
    Hi Sasha,

    You're not insane to raise those questions, for all I care a lot (approx. 7 billion) people should ask those questions about reproduction and the state of the world.

    My favorite argument to oppose all the people who think I'm as insane and inhuman as you are is this: 'I love my non-existent children so much that I prefer not to put them into a world that is (not so slowly) drifting to a huge meltdown'.
    This usually keeps them quiet for a while.

    In the Netherlenads (where I'm from) there's is this reaaly brilliant sceptical and humorous biologist, who once said in answer to the question why he didn't like (to have) children:
    Without a child I can fly all over the world, throw chemicals in the sewer, dump leaking oil cans in the forrest AND still my ecological footprint would be smaller (than that of someone who decides to have a kid)'.

    Also the knowledge that raising a child in the west (europe and the US), will cost the lives of 3 children in a developing country (because we use so much more resources), is a thought I cannot ignore. If put cruelly raising a child here basically makes you a murderer of chanceless children in Africa.

    By the way: My sister has got two adorable littles daughters who I love to take to the zoo or anything, so I'm not a child hater


  • Chardma
    I have worked in adoption, adopting a child and raising him/her for 18 yr to become a responsible citizen is not the same as taking in a dog.
    Children available for adoption have been through a trauma and there's a lot of cleanup, they often were exposed to alcohol or drugs in utero, agencies often gloss over the mother's history and if the child is older bonding is a big issue
    adopted children often have big issues about why they were given up and finding their birth parents sometimes traumatizes them and the adoptive parents even further
    I raised a child I did not birth, she has ongoing issues with her birth mother which she will have to resolve
    I have no regrets, however people's glib and insensitive comments to my daughter and me were an additional challenge
    she is of another race as well
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  • cheryl
    you might consider phrasing your view in a less adverserial and provocative way , the headline labels people evil for having children, if you phrase something in an insensitive way you may expect a defensive response
  • Kat
    You definitely bring up a good point and the argument is interesting and new.

    People can't talk about it because it makes them uncomfortable and comes off as immediately offensive. Parenting is cloaked in selflessness, the fact it's based in the opposite goes too far into self-reflection for most of us.

    Yes, people want to conceive because they want a child that is theirs--with their DNA. The need to reproduce is ingrained in our species. The problem lies with the fact that times have changed and resources are limited...humans overproduced. It's no longer in our best interest to reproduce. It's counterproductive to do so. Yet, we can't turn off that button that tells us to have our own babies easily. Based on the reactions of the commentators, it seems we are not ready to start chipping away at millions of years of evolution. Your tree example is great, except humans aren't biologically wired to plant trees.

    I wish people could just admit the act is selfish; people want kids for their own reasons. (And let's be clear here, selfishness does not equal bad or evil. Humans have to be selfish to survive. If you're starving and so is someone else next to you, it's selfish to ear the last bit of food. But here you'll die or him, so selfish is a method of survival). While the drive to reproduce is based in biology, the contemporary choice to conceive is not. People pregnant because it will make them happy, for whatever reason. I doubt the majority of people have kids because they feel they need to bring another life into this world for the sake of humanity and to give a new human the chance at life. The premise of conceiving in today's world is all about the parents' wants and needs, some of which are individual and some of which stem across the entire race. People have kids for different reasons, but those reasons are always about them. For example, the person who said their kids were an accident--why didn't you chose to have an abortion? Because it was the wrong choice for you. Let's not act like the kids magically showed up on your doorstep and you couldn't turn them away because they would die. You went through with the pregnancy because of your own reasons. That is selfish.

    This doesn't make humans bad. It doesn't make us evil. It showcases our the current world system and our biological senses are no longer in sync.
  • Ashley
    I understand your decision and desire to adopt, Sasha. It is a very admirable choice. It is not something that I could see myself doing; I don’t know that I could handle the long, expensive, horrifying adoption process where people decide whether or not I have enough family support (I don’t) or enough money (I probably don’t) or enough status (I’m definitely don’t) to adopt a child who has no place to sleep, no food to eat, or no clothes to wear (which I could definitely provide).

    I have a child, and I had this child via emergency c-section. He was extremely sick when he was born, and almost didn’t live. And I thought to myself, “Why did I do this to him? Why did I decide to bring him into the world to put him through this?” The truth is he was an accident. He was not a planned pregnancy. And though I believe in a woman’s right to choose to abort a fetus, I could not personally abort this child that was growing inside me. I considered giving him up for adoption, but I fell in love with him and fought as hard as I could to provide a safe and loving home for him. And I have, and he is thriving. Because I had a c-section, however, I felt--and still feel like I missed out in some form.

    See, I have always known that I was supposed to have children. And where you mentioned here that you nothing that large would ever come out of your vagina, I felt differently. I felt like that was the reason I was put on the earth. No amount of reasoning, explanations, or logic would make me feel differently. I wanted the whole experience: the morning sickness, the swollen ankles and feet, the big(ger) breasts, the glow. I wanted to feel the contractions and experience that terrifying, but amazing feeling of growing something inside me and allowing my body to do what it was made to do, push it out of my vagina and place it on my breast. I wanted that bond and that experience more than anything else. Yes it was selfish, but just like you cannot tell a tweenage girl to stay away from the poetry-writing, piano-playing goth kid at her middle school (his name was Daniel), there was no way of swaying me from the urges my body had ever since I hit puberty. I honestly did not feel that I could love a child the way he/she was supposed to be loved unless he/she came from my body.

    Now that I have had my child, I do feel that I missed out on that birthing experience. I cannot have any more children, because I was in such danger with him, but I still want children. I still feel like my place on this earth is to be a mother, a good one. I know now that I do have the love available in my heart to give an adopted child, but it took me several years of being a parent to feel that way. Everybody is different. I will probably foster children at some point, when I know I am ready.

    I respect you in your decision to not have a child of your own, but the same argument can be made that adopting a child when you have a diagnosed mental illness is a selfish decision. Really, should anybody have or raise any children? We are not perfect, but we all do the best we can. I’m sure you will be an amazing parent to any child you have or adopt, as am I to any child that I have or care for. Good luck, and thanks for letting me rant.
  • Guest
    Why are you so attached to the planet? It will eventually do away with ALL humans...
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